Re: Everyone - Please check facts in cases like this

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Posted by Theadora on June 8, 2001 at 02:07:38:

In reply to: Everyone - Please check facts in cases like this posted by Jeremy on June 7, 2001 at 13:47:23:

Hi Jeremy,
I wrote Kree yesterday about this as well.
I had wondered if they had somehow gotten emails about the fern and
Krees graphic issues confused somehow.
I had written in the post you list asking if it was Alex's-didn't
know if it was actually her photo as well.
I never wrote Blue Lotus myself as Kree said she was dealing with it
other ways and they weren't responding anyway.

I think the graphic is a real issue of CR infringement.It would be a
nice thing if they would at least have credited design inspiration to
Alex on the fern design.
Thanks so much for clearing this up. I think you are absolutely right
about being really careful and clear about these sort of things.

: Here is Kree's original message
:
: http://www.hennapage.com/henna/forum/messages/38284.html
:
: You will notice that she is quite specific about the graphic in
: question.
:
: Kree never mentioned ferns. In fact, that reference first appears in
:
: http://www.hennapage.com/henna/forum/messages/38399.html
:
: where Theadora wonders whether the fern in question was taken from
: Alex's designs at
:
: http://www2.bioch.ox.ac.uk/~alm/henna/lineart_fern.html
:
: However, Alex is the first to admit that fern designs are hardly
new.
:
: Kim follows up in
:
: http://www.hennapage.com/henna/forum/messages/38420.html
:
: saying "Even if they deviate some from the original art they should
: at least put an 'inspired from' credit on the site. ".
:
: I would agree that this is a reasonable and polite thing to do, but
: would anyone care to comment on whether there is any obligation in
: copyright law to do so?
:
: My understanding was that freehand work was generally deemed to
have
: deviated sufficiently that a source credit was not strictly
: necessary. In any case, I'd have thought it would be very difficult
: to prove that a particular design was the inspiration for a piece
of
: freehand work when the subject is as generic as a fern.
:
: Jeremy

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: Hi Jeremy, : I wrote Kree yesterday about this as well. : I had wondered if they had somehow gotten emails about the fern and : Krees graphic issues confused somehow. : I had written in the post you list asking if it was Alex's-didn't : know if it was actually her photo as well. : I never wrote Blue Lotus myself as Kree said she was dealing with it : other ways and they weren't responding anyway. : : I think the graphic is a real issue of CR infringement.It would be a : nice thing if they would at least have credited design inspiration to : Alex on the fern design. : Thanks so much for clearing this up. I think you are absolutely right : about being really careful and clear about these sort of things. : : : : Here is Kree's original message : : : : http://www.hennapage.com/henna/forum/messages/38284.html : : : : You will notice that she is quite specific about the graphic in : : question. : : : : Kree never mentioned ferns. In fact, that reference first appears in : : : : http://www.hennapage.com/henna/forum/messages/38399.html : : : : where Theadora wonders whether the fern in question was taken from : : Alex's designs at : : : : http://www2.bioch.ox.ac.uk/~alm/henna/lineart_fern.html : : : : However, Alex is the first to admit that fern designs are hardly : new. : : : : Kim follows up in : : : : http://www.hennapage.com/henna/forum/messages/38420.html : : : : saying "Even if they deviate some from the original art they should : : at least put an 'inspired from' credit on the site. ". : : : : I would agree that this is a reasonable and polite thing to do, but : : would anyone care to comment on whether there is any obligation in : : copyright law to do so? : : : : My understanding was that freehand work was generally deemed to : have : : deviated sufficiently that a source credit was not strictly : : necessary. In any case, I'd have thought it would be very difficult : : to prove that a particular design was the inspiration for a piece : of : : freehand work when the subject is as generic as a fern. : : : : Jeremy
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