Allergies? Sensitivities? (perhaps a crucial post on necessary questions)

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Posted by Catherine Cartwright Jones on June 11, 2001 at 00:57:55:

In reply to: Re: Zubeda Henna and Turpinol? posted by Catherine Cartwright Jones on June 10, 2001 at 22:14:03:

Digging, digging, digging on terpinol, pineol, cineol, etc, etc.

It looks to me as though an excellent questions to ask yourself or
your clients when considering whether or not to use plain henna with
nothing but lemon juice or rainwater .... or whether to include
terpinol or other EO's is:
(drum roll, ta da)
"Has a perfume (or aftershave) ever given you a rash?"

A search for sensitivities to terpines turned up a perfume site, and I
saw components of all sorts of perfumes (like Georgio, etc, etc and
all that lot), and noticed the terpines in question that nuke up henna
occur in most perfumes. I've heard from several people that pre-made
pastes which advertize themselves as adding only eucalyptus oil and
lemon juice still can cause grievous reactions in sensitive people
(though the makers swear they've never heard of anyone having a
problem) ..... and looking at the constituent molecules of EO's are
mostly the same molecules that make our favorite perfumes. Some people
get a misery from perfumes, some don't. My daugher even gets miseries
from perfumes on some parts of her body and not on other parts.
Different bits of epidermis have different characteristics on the same
person. (If you're doing a "bikini bits" henna, be particularly
cautious!)

SO ....

if you're making up pastes for a gig ....

Make up 2 batches. One, just henna and lemon juice. That's the "slow
cooker" that you have to leave on quite a long time to get good
results. Two, same stuff but add the EO that suits you to nuke up
speed and color, especially on non-granular skin .... and don't use
that on anyone who reports that they have had red rashes from
perfumes.

It appears to me that steam, heat, patience and sweat will get henna
to precisely the same color as a blast of EO terpines with less time.
You get to choose using time and some inconvenience versus a
potential sensitivity to terpines.

My preference is time, heat and sweat because they're so safe and
cheap .... other people like a terpine slam dunk. Terpinol is quick.
It works. It works especially well on impatient people.

It's your call .... and "do perfumes raise a misery?" is the question
to ask in whether or not to add terpinol or other EO's. If you've
never had red raised welts from perfumes, you may be OK.

ON NS... ask, "are you sensitive to nail polish or nail polish
remover". If the answer is no, you should be ok with NS.

On liquid latex, ask "do latex condoms give you a misery (beyond the
usual annoyance)" If you don't see terror in their eyes, they're ok.

Follow Ups

more ahas! Kenzi 16:21:12 6/11/2001 (6)
- Re: more ahas! Marina Waltz 21:34:17 6/12/2001 (5)
  - Re: more ahas! txilar 21:14:33 6/13/2001 (4)
    - Oud Marina Waltz 21:07:41 6/14/2001 (1)
      - Re: Oud (o/t) Nick 21:30:32 6/19/2001 (0)
    - Sandlewood? Natalie 04:09:25 6/14/2001 (1)
      - Re: Sandlewood? txilar 15:31:44 6/14/2001 (0)
Thanks :) Natalie 03:56:23 6/11/2001 (2)
- Pine oil Kenzi 16:25:04 6/11/2001 (1)
  - Re: Pine oil Catherine Cartwright Jones 16:50:19 6/11/2001 (0)

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: Digging, digging, digging on terpinol, pineol, cineol, etc, etc. : : It looks to me as though an excellent questions to ask yourself or : your clients when considering whether or not to use plain henna with : nothing but lemon juice or rainwater .... or whether to include : terpinol or other EO's is: : (drum roll, ta da) : "Has a perfume (or aftershave) ever given you a rash?" : : A search for sensitivities to terpines turned up a perfume site, and I : saw components of all sorts of perfumes (like Georgio, etc, etc and : all that lot), and noticed the terpines in question that nuke up henna : occur in most perfumes. I've heard from several people that pre-made : pastes which advertize themselves as adding only eucalyptus oil and : lemon juice still can cause grievous reactions in sensitive people : (though the makers swear they've never heard of anyone having a : problem) ..... and looking at the constituent molecules of EO's are : mostly the same molecules that make our favorite perfumes. Some people : get a misery from perfumes, some don't. My daugher even gets miseries : from perfumes on some parts of her body and not on other parts. : Different bits of epidermis have different characteristics on the same : person. (If you're doing a "bikini bits" henna, be particularly : cautious!) : : SO .... : : if you're making up pastes for a gig .... : : Make up 2 batches. One, just henna and lemon juice. That's the "slow : cooker" that you have to leave on quite a long time to get good : results. Two, same stuff but add the EO that suits you to nuke up : speed and color, especially on non-granular skin .... and don't use : that on anyone who reports that they have had red rashes from : perfumes. : : It appears to me that steam, heat, patience and sweat will get henna : to precisely the same color as a blast of EO terpines with less time. : You get to choose using time and some inconvenience versus a : potential sensitivity to terpines. : : My preference is time, heat and sweat because they're so safe and : cheap .... other people like a terpine slam dunk. Terpinol is quick. : It works. It works especially well on impatient people. : : It's your call .... and "do perfumes raise a misery?" is the question : to ask in whether or not to add terpinol or other EO's. If you've : never had red raised welts from perfumes, you may be OK. : : ON NS... ask, "are you sensitive to nail polish or nail polish : remover". If the answer is no, you should be ok with NS. : : On liquid latex, ask "do latex condoms give you a misery (beyond the : usual annoyance)" If you don't see terror in their eyes, they're ok.
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