Re: (expletive deleted) (unprintable) Terped henna still not working for me

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Posted by Maureen on September 5, 2001 at 06:12:09:

In reply to: (expletive deleted) (unprintable) Terped henna still not working for me posted by Lauren on September 4, 2001 at 16:42:31:

Hi Lauren,

May as well add my two cents. My experience with Jamila is that I
always get an excellent stain but I have to wait on it. It can start
out light and then over the next three days go to very dark when left
on 15 to 20 minutes. It can start out a deep medium to dark tan (or
red when it feels like it) and go to the deepest darkest
burgundy/brown (or to a deep deep black cherry when it feels like
it). The only time the Jamila gives me a deep stain right away is on
the bottom or side of my feet or palms when wrapped and left on for
over 45 minutes...OR when it is left on overnight, sealed and
wrapped). It still gets darker of the next three days.

I also think, were I you, that I would simplify the recipe right
now. The recipe I use is the Jamila, lemon, sugar and cajeput. I
have mixed the cajeput at the same time I mixed the lemon, sugar and
Jamila. Then let the mixture sit out 12 to 24 hours and used it with
excellent results. I have mixed the Jamila, lemon and sugar. Let it
sit out for 12 to 24 hours then added the cajeput. Let it sit 8 to
12 hours and used it with the same excellent results. I always use a
sealant and only wrap if I am leaving it on overnight. The sealant
makes it impossible for the paste to fall off. So I scrape it off.
Add vegetable oil and steam the design. If the design is in a place
that I can not steam it, I light a cigarette and hold it close to the
design to the heat from the cigarette heats the design. This really
works well on designs with lots of details. It also makes visible
what sometimes seems to be a part of the design that is not there.

Why don't you try the simplified recipe only on your palm (sealed and
wrapped) overnight and see what is there in the morning. I wouldn't
use anything but the lemon, sugar, cajeput and Jamila. And even if
the design is deep and dark, still steam it or apply heat in some way.

I have a bottle of Jamila, cajeput et al mixture that is into its
third week. I am testing paste demise. The stain on my palm with 14
day old Jamila paste is as dark as the stain of some two day pastes
that shall remain unnamed. I am not naming them because I don't know
what those pastes will be doing in 12 more days. But the Jamila is
going strong and respectable. Not what it was in its prime but
anyone would be happy with the stain.

Also, I made a point of not refrigerating any of the pastes I am
testing now. Doing nothing special to them. I will refrigerate the
next batch and see if the outcome is different.

I have had all sorts of results when I have tried to go over a
design. Rarely, it comes out darker. Often, the first line or shape
that I thought was too light suddenly showed up much deeper than the
rest of the design that I had gone over and elaborated upon. Other
times with the second application, the entire thing came out
lighter...go figure!! Ficked henna!

I have no doubt that there is some little quirky thing going on. Is
this happening with all the different henna powders you are using?

Hang in there!!

Maureen

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: Hi Lauren, : : May as well add my two cents. My experience with Jamila is that I : always get an excellent stain but I have to wait on it. It can start : out light and then over the next three days go to very dark when left : on 15 to 20 minutes. It can start out a deep medium to dark tan (or : red when it feels like it) and go to the deepest darkest : burgundy/brown (or to a deep deep black cherry when it feels like : it). The only time the Jamila gives me a deep stain right away is on : the bottom or side of my feet or palms when wrapped and left on for : over 45 minutes...OR when it is left on overnight, sealed and : wrapped). It still gets darker of the next three days. : : I also think, were I you, that I would simplify the recipe right : now. The recipe I use is the Jamila, lemon, sugar and cajeput. I : have mixed the cajeput at the same time I mixed the lemon, sugar and : Jamila. Then let the mixture sit out 12 to 24 hours and used it with : excellent results. I have mixed the Jamila, lemon and sugar. Let it : sit out for 12 to 24 hours then added the cajeput. Let it sit 8 to : 12 hours and used it with the same excellent results. I always use a : sealant and only wrap if I am leaving it on overnight. The sealant : makes it impossible for the paste to fall off. So I scrape it off. : Add vegetable oil and steam the design. If the design is in a place : that I can not steam it, I light a cigarette and hold it close to the : design to the heat from the cigarette heats the design. This really : works well on designs with lots of details. It also makes visible : what sometimes seems to be a part of the design that is not there. : : Why don't you try the simplified recipe only on your palm (sealed and : wrapped) overnight and see what is there in the morning. I wouldn't : use anything but the lemon, sugar, cajeput and Jamila. And even if : the design is deep and dark, still steam it or apply heat in some way. : : I have a bottle of Jamila, cajeput et al mixture that is into its : third week. I am testing paste demise. The stain on my palm with 14 : day old Jamila paste is as dark as the stain of some two day pastes : that shall remain unnamed. I am not naming them because I don't know : what those pastes will be doing in 12 more days. But the Jamila is : going strong and respectable. Not what it was in its prime but : anyone would be happy with the stain. : : Also, I made a point of not refrigerating any of the pastes I am : testing now. Doing nothing special to them. I will refrigerate the : next batch and see if the outcome is different. : : I have had all sorts of results when I have tried to go over a : design. Rarely, it comes out darker. Often, the first line or shape : that I thought was too light suddenly showed up much deeper than the : rest of the design that I had gone over and elaborated upon. Other : times with the second application, the entire thing came out : lighter...go figure!! Ficked henna! : : I have no doubt that there is some little quirky thing going on. Is : this happening with all the different henna powders you are using? : : Hang in there!! : : Maureen
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