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Re: It will take a lot of hands to pull heads out of dark places Kenzi! :-)Posted by Maureen on September 19, 2001 at 19:50:42: In reply to: Re: It will take a lot of hands to pull heads out of dark places Kenzi! :-) posted by Robert on September 19, 2001 at 14:50:57: Hi Robert,Were you to pray for all the people of the world no matter where they are and who they are to have enough resolve to stand up to these cowards who murder innocents with terrorist acts....and that all leaders of all lands will do whatever is required so all men, women and children can live without the fear of being attacked by terrorist, their neighbor or a bigotted stranger while going to work or to school. Our prayers would be quite similar indeed. Hitler, Mussolini, Bin Laden and a host of others are not the failure of God, Allah, Jehovah et. al and prayer...but rather the failure of man. Man creates these people and then destroys them...creates them and then destroys them...crates them and then destroys them. Man creates the fertile ground in which they grow...them stands by and watch them grow big and strong...and watch...doing nothing while they choke out the life of others as they grow...and then at some point determines that it is enough and then destroys people such as this. I just tire of man creating and fertilizing that ground in which these people grow. And then think that the response to these people is simply to weed them out. So weed them out. When the smoke clears and the sun comes out guess what will be growing there for the next generation to deal with. Who bares the most responsibility? The weed that chokes out the garden or the gardener who mixed the soil, tended the garden and ignored its growth until much damage has been done? It is just a philosophical question. But it is one we need to go deep within ourselves to answer. Or we will forever be caught up in that definition of stupidity. And by the way, noone went to war to save Jews from going into concentration camps any more than the Civil War was fought to free the slaves. Had that been the case, so many Jews would never have died. And who knows if prayer would have helped the Jews not be taken to the camps since no one seemed to pray for them but other Jews. Wonder what would have occurred if others prayed and other religions had stood up? We will never know because it never happened. Anyway Robert, you and I are not at war. And Kenzi's statement is about the domino effect that has occured and how the ante is upped. But, you know that. We, by brother will not make war...you and I and others here. Peace! Maureen
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